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We can help you decide between Lenovo's ThinkPad P1 and X1 Extreme

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2)

Better option for most people

From $1,722 at Lenovo

Pros

  • Stocked with security features
  • Stunning 4K OLED touch display option
  • Perfect keyboard
  • NVIDIA GTX 1650 dedicated GPU
  • Upgradeable internal hardware

Cons

  • Quite expensive
  • Battery won't last a full day

The ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) is an outstanding laptop that's suited for those who don't need specialized Xeon and Quadro hardware or ISV certifications. It still manages to deliver awesome performance with NVIDIA GTX 1650 graphics card (GPU), up to an Intel Core i9-9880H processor (CPU), and up to 64GB of DDR4 RAM.

Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2)

Mobile workstation

From $1,679 at Lenovo

Pros

  • Optional Intel Xeon CPU
  • NVIDIA Quadro dedicated GPUs available
  • ECC RAM
  • Plenty of ISV certifications
  • Upgradeable internal hardware

Cons

  • Battery won't last a full workday
  • True workstation models are expensive

The ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) sets itself apart from the X1 Extreme with optional workstation hardware — including Intel Xeon E-2276M CPU, NVIDIA Quadro T2000 GPU, and error-correcting code (ECC) RAM — and a long list of independent software vendor (ISV) certifications.

The second-gen ThinkPad P1 and ThinkPad X1 Extreme are both powerful business PCs that demand a relatively high price. Let's take a look at what exactly sets them apart to help you decide on which one makes the most sense for you.

ThinkPad X1 Extreme vs. Lenovo ThinkPad P1 tech specs

Category ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2)
Processor 9th Gen
Intel Core i5-9300H
Intel Core i5-9400H vPro
Intel Core i7-9750H
Intel Core i7-9850H vPro
Intel Core i9-9880H vPro
9th Gen
Intel Core i5-9400H vPro
Intel Core i7-9750H
Intel Core i7-9850H vPro
Intel Core i9-9880H vPro
Intel Xeon E-2276M vPro
RAM 8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB
DDR4-2666MHz
8GB, 16GB, 32GB, 64GB
DDR4-2666MHz
ECC or non-ECC
Graphics NVIDIA GTX 1650 Max-Q (4GB) Intel UHD Graphics 630
NVIDIA Quadro T1000
NVIDIA Quadro T2000
Storage 256GB, 512GB, 1TB
M.2 PCIe SSD
256GB, 512GB, 1TB, 2TB, 4TB
M.2 PCIe SSD
Display 15.6 inches
FHD IPS
FHD IPS, Dolby Vision HDR 400
UHD IPS, Dolby Vision HDR 400
UHD OLED, touch, Dolby Vision HDR 500
15.6 inches
FHD IPS
FHD IPS, Dolby Vision HDR 400
UHD IPS, Dolby Vision HDR 400
UHD OLED, touch, Dolby Vision HDR 500
Ports Two USB-A 3.1
Two Thunderbolt 3
HDMI 2.0
Ethernet extension connector
3.5mm audio
SD card reader
Two USB-A 3.1
Two Thunderbolt 3
HDMI 2.0
Ethernet extension connector
3.5mm audio
SD card reader
Audio Dual 2W speakers
Dolby Atmos
Dual 2W speakers
Dolby Atmos
Wireless Intel Wireless-AX200 (2x2)
802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6)
Bluetooth 5.0
Intel Wireless-AX200 (2x2)
802.11ax (Wi-Fi 6)
Bluetooth 5.0
Camera Front-facing 720p Front-facing 720p
Security Smart Card reader (optional)
IR camera
ThinkShutter webcam cover
dTPM 2.0
Fingerprint reader
Smart Card reader (optional)
ThinkShutter webcam cover
IR camera
dTPM 2.0
Fingerprint reader
Touchpad Precision
TrackPoint system
Precision
TrackPoint system
Battery 80Wh
135W AC adapter
80Wh
135W AC adapter
Dimensions 14.24 x 9.67 x 0.74 inches
(361.8mm x 245.7mm x 18.7mm)
14.24 x 9.67 x 0.74 inches
(361.8mm x 245.7mm x 18.7mm)
Weight Non-touch: 3.75 pounds (1.7kg)
Touch: 4.0 pounds (1.81kg)
Non-touch: 3.75 pounds (1.7kg)
Touch: 4.0 pounds (1.81kg)

ThinkPad X1 Extreme vs. Lenovo ThinkPad P1 design and features

Physically, the X1 Extreme and P1 are nearly identical. Both use the same aluminum alloy chassis, have a carbon fiber finish (UHD models) or black paint (FHD models) on the lid, and have the same port selection. Both laptops have undergone MIL-STD 810G testing to prove their resilience to conditions above what you'd normally find in an office setting. Weight will change a bit depending on the type of display and internal hardware you choose, but dimensions remain the same. The X1 Extreme has a small "X1" logo on the lid, but that's about the only real difference design-wise.

Port selection is varied enough that you shouldn't have any issues connecting your favorite accessories, and dual Thunderbolt 3 ports mean you can connect a powerful docking station for expanded connectivity. An SD card reader on both laptops makes it easy to handle photography work, and an optional Smart Card reader is there for added security. On that note, these ThinkPads also come equipped with a fingerprint reader, dTPM 2.0 chip, optional IR camera, and webcam shutter for extra peace of mind.

The keyboard is the same for both models, and it's absolutely fantastic. I've been using either the X1 Extreme or the P1 as a daily driver for more than a month, and going back to any other keyboard is a pain. Spacing is spot on, travel is just right, and there's a backlight to help work after hours. The usual TrackPoint system is present for those who prefer the red nub and physical buttons over the Precision touchpad. Audio from dual 2W speakers is adequate for most scenarios, with a boost from Dolby Atmos. Speakers are down-firing so they do get a bit muffled.

ThinkPad X1 Extreme vs. Lenovo ThinkPad P1 display

4K IPS display in the P1 on the left, 4K OLED display in the X1 Extreme on the right.

Whether you choose the X1 Extreme or the P1, you'll have access to the same display options. Baseline models come with a 1920x1080 (FHD) resolution, IPS panel, anti-glare finish, and can hit about 300 nits brightness. A step up includes an FHD resolution, IPS panel, and anti-glare finish, but it includes Dolby Vision HDR 400. Both of these do not have any touch function.

Moving into the 3840x2160 (UHD) options, Lenovo offers one non-touch with Dolby Vision HDR 400, anti-glare finish, and IPS panel. It is understandably more expensive than the FHD models, but it isn't the most expensive. You'll pay extra for a UHD OLED touch display with Dolby Vision HDR 500, but it does offer the most pleasing picture with accurate color reproduction across color gamuts, including DCI-P3.

While these displays are available in both laptops, it seems that only the P1 offers X-Rite Pantone color calibration straight from the factory. This is an optional feature and does cost extra, but it's there for those who need it.

ThinkPad X1 Extreme vs. Lenovo ThinkPad P1 performance

There are plenty of configuration options to choose from when outfitting an X1 Extreme or P1, and both will deliver exceptional performance considering the form factor. However, the P1 is available with Intel Xeon and NVIDIA Quadro hardware, while the X1 Extreme caps out at Intel Core and NVIDIA GTX hardware. It also has optional ECC RAM for those who need it. Along with plenty of ISV certifications that guarantee compatibility with major software, the P1 is the right choice for professionals who work with specialized design and development software.

The X1 Extreme and P1 were both tested during the review process, and you can see how they compare with some synthetic benchmarks.

CPU

Geekbench 5.0 Benchmarks (Higher is better)

Device CPU Single core Multi core
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) i7-9850H 1,233 5,216
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) i7-9850H 1,160 4,168

Same CPU, better raw performance seen in single- and multi-core scores in the ThinkPad P1.

PCMark

PCMark 10 Express

Device Score
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) 4,969
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) 4,915

The PCMark 10 Express test measures how well the system performs with general tasks, while the Extended version adds in some heavier work. The P1 scored 4,980 in the extended test, while the X1 Extreme managed 4,850.

3DMark

Time Spy

Device GPU Score
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) Quadro T2000 2,956
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) GTX 1650 Max-Q 3,190

3DMark

Fire Strike

Device GPU Score
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) Quadro T2000 6,632
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) GTX 1650 Max-Q 7,198

Cinebench

Cinebench (R20) (Higher is better)

Device CPU Range
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) Core i7-9850H 1,783 to 2,201
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) Core i7-9850H 1,730 to 2,495

Running Cinebench four times in a row, the scores show the following ranges. Typically, the results drop on successive runs due to thermal constraints on the processor.

SSD

CrystalDiskMark (Higher is better)

Device Read Write
Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) 3,508 MB/s 3,010 MB/s
Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) 3,416 MB/s 3,016 MB/s

The Samsung PM981 found here delivers extremely quick read and write speeds, and hardware can be upgraded down the road. Testing with PCMark's data drive benchmark, I saw a score of 2,119.

The battery is the same in both laptops, and you should find life similar depending on the display you choose. FHD models will deliver the best life, while UHD models will struggle to last a full workday.

When checking out, keep in mind that RAM and SSD can be easily upgraded in the future. If you want to save some money, you can go with a lesser configuration and add hardware as you see fit.

Go with the X1 Extreme (Gen 2) for a more casual workhorse

Though the X1 Extreme doesn't have the same specialized hardware options as the P1, it's still an outstanding laptop that delivers performance in a sleek and relatively light body. The addition of HDR in the 4K display is a boon for many, it holds onto robust security features, and it can be easily upgraded down the line.

ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2)

Portable Power

Second-gen is a hit

From $1,722 at Lenovo

The X1 Extreme is a great pick for just about anyone thanks to powerful hardware and beautiful display options.

Go with the ThinkPad P1 for a mobile workstation

Thanks to specialized performance hardware options and ISV certifications, the ThinkPad P1 is the better choice for those working with professional software. The addition of optional X-Rite Pantone color calibration for the 4K displays is an added boon.

ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2)

Mobile Workstation

From $1,679 at Lenovo

Specialized hardware and ISV certifications

If you need Intel Xeon and NVIDIA Quadro hardware, the ThinkPad P1 is your go-to choice.

Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) Better option for most people From $1,722 at Lenovo Pros Stocked with security features Stunning 4K OLED touch display option Perfect keyboard NVIDIA GTX 1650 dedicated GPU Upgradeable internal hardware Cons Quite expensive Battery won't last a full day The ThinkPad X1 Extreme (Gen 2) is an outstanding laptop that's suited for those who don't need specialized Xeon and Quadro hardware or ISV certifications. It still manages to deliver awesome performance with NVIDIA GTX 1650 graphics card (GPU), up to an Intel Core i9-9880H processor (CPU), and up to 64GB of DDR4 RAM. Lenovo ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) Mobile workstation From $1,679 at Lenovo Pros Optional Intel Xeon CPU NVIDIA Quadro dedicated GPUs available ECC RAM Plenty of ISV certifications Upgradeable internal hardware Cons Battery won't last a full workday True workstation models are expensive The ThinkPad P1 (Gen 2) sets itself apart from the X1 Extreme with optional workst... by: Cale Hunt via https://www.AiUpNow.com/